Mormonism and Socialism
Here is the article:
http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_7216457
Here is a comment from another poster that I responded to below:
What's interesting about this thread is how the orthodoxy shows itself as threatened by any fresh thinking. This same attitude has also led to a stagnancy within the LDS church. Stagnancy, as is well known, is a state of disease, and in regard to the church orthodoxy we see this manifesting as a pro-war, pro-business, pro-nationalism, anti-earth agenda. I know many Mormons who are deeply spiritual people, just as I know many Catholics, Buddhists, and Muslims who are deeply spiritual. As a group, there is not one indication in our culture that Mormons somehow know the "truth" anymore than any other group. If they did, our skies would be cleaner, our jails would be less frequented, our valleys would not be developed beyond what is prudent, we would not be using scarce water to irrigate deserts, we would not have to fight to save open spaces, we would have a much lower divorce rate, we would depend more on dialog than war, and would certainly not support the military industrial complex that underlies our economy. And with the deep corruption and hypocrisy so evident from the right wing, we would not see our legislature overwhelmed by republicans.
I'd be glad to listen to anyone who can show me how orthodox Mormonism is manifesting otherwise in our culture.
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I wrote a response to the above comment. Here it is:
The article does have some valid points, such as, overcoming poverty, loving one another as Jesus taught, etc. The problem is that the author is advocating abolishing government and instituting socialism. These are two issues that are opposed to the teachings of the Savior and past and present Prophets and church leaders. Socialism is a very old idea that has failed every time it has been instituted. It is definitely not "fresh thinking" as you mentioned.
Here are the author's words:
"Every Mormon should look forward to the abolition of government," Van Wagenen writes, "and the building of a socialist society based on free association and mutual cooperation."
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If the author truly believes that socialism is the way to help the poor and needy, he is very mistaken. Socialism is a failed (many times over) system that only makes those in charge wealthy at the cost of the poor.
The Law of Consecration is an inspired doctrine that is voluntary and meant to build up every individual, not those in charge.
Here is some additional information from Pres. Ezra Taft Benson:
Socialism--a Philosophy Incompatible with Man's Liberty
Another notable counterfeit system to the Lord's plan is collectivized socialism. Socialism derives its philosophy from the founders of communism, Marx and Engels. Communism in practice is socialism. Its purpose is world socialism, which the communists seek to achieve by revolution, and which the socialists seek to achieve by evolution. Both communism and socialism have the same effect upon the individual--a loss of personal liberty. As was said so well by President J. Reuben Clark, Jr., "The two are as two peas in a pod in their ultimate effect upon our liberties."
Why is socialism incompatible with man's liberty? Socialism cannot work except through an all-powerful state. The state has to be supreme in everything. When individuals begin to exert their God-given rights, the state has to suppress that freedom. So belief in God must be suppressed, and with that gone freedom of conscience and religion must also go. Those are the first of our liberties mentioned in the Bill of Rights.
There are some among us who would confuse the united order with socialism. That is a serious misunderstanding. It is significant to me that the Prophet Joseph Smith, after attending lectures on socialism in his day, made this official entry in the Church history: "I said I did not believe the doctrine" (Joseph Smith, History of the Church 6:33).
Socialism Disguised under Welfare State Measures
As citizens of this noble land, we have marched a long way down the soul-destroying road of socialism. If you question that statement, consider the recent testimonial from the Nobel prize-winning economist, Milton Friedman. He indicated that government spending in the United States at all levels amounts to over forty percent of today's total national income. If we continue to follow the trend in which we are heading today, two things will inevitably result: first, a loss of our personal freedom, and second, financial bankruptcy. This is the price we pay when we turn away from God and the principles which he has taught and turn to government to do everything for us. It is the formula by which nations become enslaved.
This nation was established by the God of heaven as a citadel of liberty. A constitution guaranteeing those liberties was designed under the superintending influence of heaven. I have recounted here before what took place in the St. George Temple when the Founding Fathers of this nation visited President Wilford Woodruff, who was then a member of the Twelve and not president of the Church. The republic which was established was the most nearly perfect system which could have been devised to lead men toward celestial principles. We may liken our system to the law of Moses which leads men to the higher law of Christ.
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It is very important that we as a church and individuals understand that it is our duty to help those in need. It is not the government's responsibility. I agree with the author in that sense, that capitalism can lead to greed which leads to money becoming all-important. The issue I have is that capitalism also leads to having the money available in the private-sector to truly lead people out of poverty and off of government welfare.
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What do you think?

